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		<title>By: Kourtnie McKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kourtnie McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Justin! :D</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 05:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to let you know I was using your little guide here. I decided to try leveling with holy and so far I am doing fine thanks to DF. I love the guide and I hope to see more stuff to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to let you know I was using your little guide here. I decided to try leveling with holy and so far I am doing fine thanks to DF. I love the guide and I hope to see more stuff to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Kourtnie McKenzie</title>
		<link>http://johannah.kourtnie.net/lvl-80-holy-priest-guide/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Kourtnie McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JUST figured out my blonde move there--ToTC, you meant &quot;Trial of the Crusader,&quot; not &quot;Trial of the Grand Crusader.&quot; Whoops! For regular ToC-10, you should be good with the strategy I listed here, hehe. :)

Gear is actually a bit different from Discipline and Holy from what I understand, although I&#039;m still learning Discipline. I can tell you with the way I play Holy priest, I aim for 1200 Spirit before anything else; then spellpower, critical strike, and haste. Most Holy priests on the forums say Intellect &gt; critical strike, but I am a big fan of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33154&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Surge of Light&lt;/a&gt; procs. Above all else though, Spirit is your friend! It&#039;ll give spellpower thanks to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=15031&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spiritual Guidance&lt;/a&gt;, not to mention the extra oomph from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20711&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spirit of Redemption&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=34860&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Holy Concentration&lt;/a&gt;, so it is a wildly better stat for Holy than Discipline. Avoid mp5 whenever possible because it doesn&#039;t have the chemistry Spirit does with Holy talents.

I&#039;m personally building a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44254&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Darkmoon Card: Greatness&lt;/a&gt; for Spirit for my smite set because hit gear commonly lacks Spirit and it&#039;s just that amazing for the Holy tree. In REALLY mana intensive places like ToGC, I&#039;ll be using that card for healing as well. I highly recommend it if you&#039;re looking for a quick fix! The comments on WoWhead in the link go into a lot of detail about how the Spirit version benefits Holy priests and Restoration druids. 

Guardian Spirit is your single best spell IMO (other than maybe Circle of Healing); it&#039;s not just a crutch to save a tank like Pain Suppression is, but a means to boost healing overall on the tank temporarily. I always walk around with the Guardian Spirit glyph so that I get the spell back real fast when the tank doesn&#039;t die during it&#039;s duration, and I swap out my other two glyphs based on the situation. It&#039;s great for times when you know the tank might take spike damage, like Ony landing!

Hybrid healers are people that can off-heal in a pinch and are mostly filled these days by Elemental shamans. The problem with Shadow priests and Balance druids is they have to dance forms, and Retribution paladins don&#039;t really have the mana pool for it. Smite priests are a great alternative but it&#039;s a very rare spec in WotLK; back in BC, the GCD wasn&#039;t as gimpy and smite was more feasible. It takes an excruciating amount of hit, Spirit, and crit to pull off effectively (over 2.5-3k); I&#039;ve only recently been able to do it in raids without problems and it took a ton of i226+ gear! They&#039;re almost worthless in 25-mans but situational-awesome in 10-mans. 

Let me know if you have any other questions; glad to help! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JUST figured out my blonde move there&#8211;ToTC, you meant &#8220;Trial of the Crusader,&#8221; not &#8220;Trial of the Grand Crusader.&#8221; Whoops! For regular ToC-10, you should be good with the strategy I listed here, hehe. <img src='http://johannah.kourtnie.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Gear is actually a bit different from Discipline and Holy from what I understand, although I&#8217;m still learning Discipline. I can tell you with the way I play Holy priest, I aim for 1200 Spirit before anything else; then spellpower, critical strike, and haste. Most Holy priests on the forums say Intellect &gt; critical strike, but I am a big fan of <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33154" rel="nofollow">Surge of Light</a> procs. Above all else though, Spirit is your friend! It&#8217;ll give spellpower thanks to <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=15031" rel="nofollow">Spiritual Guidance</a>, not to mention the extra oomph from <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20711" rel="nofollow">Spirit of Redemption</a> and <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=34860" rel="nofollow">Holy Concentration</a>, so it is a wildly better stat for Holy than Discipline. Avoid mp5 whenever possible because it doesn&#8217;t have the chemistry Spirit does with Holy talents.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m personally building a <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44254" rel="nofollow">Darkmoon Card: Greatness</a> for Spirit for my smite set because hit gear commonly lacks Spirit and it&#8217;s just that amazing for the Holy tree. In REALLY mana intensive places like ToGC, I&#8217;ll be using that card for healing as well. I highly recommend it if you&#8217;re looking for a quick fix! The comments on WoWhead in the link go into a lot of detail about how the Spirit version benefits Holy priests and Restoration druids. </p>
<p>Guardian Spirit is your single best spell IMO (other than maybe Circle of Healing); it&#8217;s not just a crutch to save a tank like Pain Suppression is, but a means to boost healing overall on the tank temporarily. I always walk around with the Guardian Spirit glyph so that I get the spell back real fast when the tank doesn&#8217;t die during it&#8217;s duration, and I swap out my other two glyphs based on the situation. It&#8217;s great for times when you know the tank might take spike damage, like Ony landing!</p>
<p>Hybrid healers are people that can off-heal in a pinch and are mostly filled these days by Elemental shamans. The problem with Shadow priests and Balance druids is they have to dance forms, and Retribution paladins don&#8217;t really have the mana pool for it. Smite priests are a great alternative but it&#8217;s a very rare spec in WotLK; back in BC, the GCD wasn&#8217;t as gimpy and smite was more feasible. It takes an excruciating amount of hit, Spirit, and crit to pull off effectively (over 2.5-3k); I&#8217;ve only recently been able to do it in raids without problems and it took a ton of i226+ gear! They&#8217;re almost worthless in 25-mans but situational-awesome in 10-mans. </p>
<p>Let me know if you have any other questions; glad to help! <img src='http://johannah.kourtnie.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, good to know about the PW:S for Holy priests. I was realizing that mana can be an issue with Holy, so good to know! I didn&#039;t know how good I had it with Disc in that respect. Which leads me to another question: I&#039;ve been putting first priority to spell power when I gear, but now with the new holy spec i&#039;ve been mana deprived. Should spirit or mp5 take precedence now? It seems silly to have two sets of gear for a healing priest, but maybe I should readjust the priority of my stats? Pondering this...

Anyway, thank you for the response and again with all the help! My guild and I are not quite yet to 10-mans (although my friend is probably there with her gear and experience, she just hasn&#039;t done it yet). For the most part, we&#039;ve got our heroics down - with the exception of TotC for me (the healer) and our tank. Our tank is struggling to hold aggro, which makes heals hard for me. But I&#039;m also a little weak with emergency situations, and I&#039;m realizing I need to read up on all the fights and figure out what&#039;s best to do when. It&#039;s not all cookie-cutter, is what I&#039;m finding out!

Good to know about ToGC, though, and I&#039;ll be sure to keep this info for when we do get started on 10-mans, which really may not be too long for some of us. I got the glyph for renew, and I use body and soul for PW:S. Keep forgetting about Guardian spirit, but i&#039;ll try to practice with it more in our 5-mans, so I&#039;ll be ready in the future.

So, hybrid healers are like a 3rd person that can &quot;off-heal?&quot; That&#039;s really good to know for when we start forming our raid groups. Can&#039;t decide if I&#039;ll mostly holy heal or stick with disc. I&#039;m more comfortable with disc, probably because I&#039;m used to having to keep our tank alive! And I love bubbles, especially since I have the glyph that gives a little bit of a heal. But sometimes my group suffers, so I wanted to look into holy. It&#039;s a toss up now, but as I get more comfortable (and my other guildies improve), I&#039;ll probably learn what works best for us.

Lots to think about and continue to research! Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, good to know about the PW:S for Holy priests. I was realizing that mana can be an issue with Holy, so good to know! I didn&#8217;t know how good I had it with Disc in that respect. Which leads me to another question: I&#8217;ve been putting first priority to spell power when I gear, but now with the new holy spec i&#8217;ve been mana deprived. Should spirit or mp5 take precedence now? It seems silly to have two sets of gear for a healing priest, but maybe I should readjust the priority of my stats? Pondering this&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, thank you for the response and again with all the help! My guild and I are not quite yet to 10-mans (although my friend is probably there with her gear and experience, she just hasn&#8217;t done it yet). For the most part, we&#8217;ve got our heroics down &#8211; with the exception of TotC for me (the healer) and our tank. Our tank is struggling to hold aggro, which makes heals hard for me. But I&#8217;m also a little weak with emergency situations, and I&#8217;m realizing I need to read up on all the fights and figure out what&#8217;s best to do when. It&#8217;s not all cookie-cutter, is what I&#8217;m finding out!</p>
<p>Good to know about ToGC, though, and I&#8217;ll be sure to keep this info for when we do get started on 10-mans, which really may not be too long for some of us. I got the glyph for renew, and I use body and soul for PW:S. Keep forgetting about Guardian spirit, but i&#8217;ll try to practice with it more in our 5-mans, so I&#8217;ll be ready in the future.</p>
<p>So, hybrid healers are like a 3rd person that can &#8220;off-heal?&#8221; That&#8217;s really good to know for when we start forming our raid groups. Can&#8217;t decide if I&#8217;ll mostly holy heal or stick with disc. I&#8217;m more comfortable with disc, probably because I&#8217;m used to having to keep our tank alive! And I love bubbles, especially since I have the glyph that gives a little bit of a heal. But sometimes my group suffers, so I wanted to look into holy. It&#8217;s a toss up now, but as I get more comfortable (and my other guildies improve), I&#8217;ll probably learn what works best for us.</p>
<p>Lots to think about and continue to research! Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Kourtnie McKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kourtnie McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carey,

Thanks so much for the kind comment! My guild has just started ToGC (heroic 10-man), so I admittedly don&#039;t have too much to offer on that front. But I can tell you about the first boss, which we have had success with!

If you&#039;re playing a Holy priest in there, you&#039;re going to want the other healer to be a strong class for tank healing, like a paladin (or a Discipline priest :p). On Gormok, you&#039;ll want to use your Guardian Spirit aggressively on the tanks that are spiking from impale; Gormok&#039;s the hardest part of the ToGC Beasts fight. It&#039;s really important to keep the Renews going on both tanks, and I actually glyph for Renew for that fight because it helps me keep up with Impale&#039;s tick. I save Divine Hymn for if worms spits all over too many people&#039;s faces at once.

We planned on going into ToGC this weekend with two other healers and myself in smite spec, since our raid/guild lead has read so much about hybrid healer/the 2.5 healer method being effective in there. It&#039;s one of those situations where 3 healers is great--but then you need DPS to keep up with the timer!--and 2 healers is stressful. I&#039;m a tad intimidated about the prospect since elemental shamans (and pretty much every other hybrid) hit harder DPS than a smite priest, but then, smite priests have the best hybrid heals in pinchy situations.

For regular-10man ToC--the strat I went over in this guide was built around that. :) I try to be responsive to damage I know is inevitable in that raid, i.e. I keep my Circle of Healing ready for Worms spitting on things, Icehowl throwing the raid out; Guardian Spirit ready for when someone forgets to click the portal right before Twins explodes; and on Anub, I like to use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=64129&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Body and Soul&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s Power Word: Shield effect to make sure people can run to the snow and avoid the spikes. (Which is about the only time a Holy priest should be PW:S, versus a Discipline priest using PW:S all the time; it&#039;s a mana sink for a Holy priest to bubble too much! &gt;.&lt;)

Hope this helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carey,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for the kind comment! My guild has just started ToGC (heroic 10-man), so I admittedly don&#8217;t have too much to offer on that front. But I can tell you about the first boss, which we have had success with!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re playing a Holy priest in there, you&#8217;re going to want the other healer to be a strong class for tank healing, like a paladin (or a Discipline priest :p). On Gormok, you&#8217;ll want to use your Guardian Spirit aggressively on the tanks that are spiking from impale; Gormok&#8217;s the hardest part of the ToGC Beasts fight. It&#8217;s really important to keep the Renews going on both tanks, and I actually glyph for Renew for that fight because it helps me keep up with Impale&#8217;s tick. I save Divine Hymn for if worms spits all over too many people&#8217;s faces at once.</p>
<p>We planned on going into ToGC this weekend with two other healers and myself in smite spec, since our raid/guild lead has read so much about hybrid healer/the 2.5 healer method being effective in there. It&#8217;s one of those situations where 3 healers is great&#8211;but then you need DPS to keep up with the timer!&#8211;and 2 healers is stressful. I&#8217;m a tad intimidated about the prospect since elemental shamans (and pretty much every other hybrid) hit harder DPS than a smite priest, but then, smite priests have the best hybrid heals in pinchy situations.</p>
<p>For regular-10man ToC&#8211;the strat I went over in this guide was built around that. <img src='http://johannah.kourtnie.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I try to be responsive to damage I know is inevitable in that raid, i.e. I keep my Circle of Healing ready for Worms spitting on things, Icehowl throwing the raid out; Guardian Spirit ready for when someone forgets to click the portal right before Twins explodes; and on Anub, I like to use <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=64129" rel="nofollow">Body and Soul</a>&#8217;s Power Word: Shield effect to make sure people can run to the snow and avoid the spikes. (Which is about the only time a Holy priest should be PW:S, versus a Discipline priest using PW:S all the time; it&#8217;s a mana sink for a Holy priest to bubble too much! &gt;.&lt;)</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Carey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;m a fairly new level 80 disc priest that just dual-specced holy. I LOVE healing, but I&#039;m still trying to figure out all the ins and outs of playing a priest. I&#039;m so glad I stumbled on your site! Your info was very helpful! Specifically your talent builds and what spells to use in fights. I was wondering if you had any helpful hints on healing ToTC? Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m a fairly new level 80 disc priest that just dual-specced holy. I LOVE healing, but I&#8217;m still trying to figure out all the ins and outs of playing a priest. I&#8217;m so glad I stumbled on your site! Your info was very helpful! Specifically your talent builds and what spells to use in fights. I was wondering if you had any helpful hints on healing ToTC? Thanks again!</p>
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